Comments on: My Two Weeks With Defensio Anti-Spam http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:00:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-RC1 hourly 1 By: Decided to give Defensio Anti-Spam a shot… over Akismet  »  Chaos Laboratory http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-141675 Decided to give Defensio Anti-Spam a shot… over Akismet  »  Chaos Laboratory Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:27:19 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-141675 [...] going through a bunch of reviews - both positive and negative, I decided to go ahead and give Defensio a try. For those who didn’t know, [...] [...] going through a bunch of reviews - both positive and negative, I decided to go ahead and give Defensio a try. For those who didn’t know, [...]

]]> By: Viper007Bond http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-128691 Viper007Bond Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:46:22 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-128691 I used to use Bad Behavior, but I didn't want to deal with any false positives as it would literally block people from my site. I can deal with recovering a false positive comment or marking a comment that slipped through Defensio, but I can't do anything about BB being wrong. I used to use Bad Behavior, but I didn’t want to deal with any false positives as it would literally block people from my site. I can deal with recovering a false positive comment or marking a comment that slipped through Defensio, but I can’t do anything about BB being wrong.

]]> By: Luigi Martin http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-127643 Luigi Martin Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:27 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-127643 Interesting. I haven't tried Defensio (yet) I started my blog about 3 years ago, and once I switched to wordpress, I quickly discovered akismet (its built-in to wordpress). Although it worked well, I noticed it would add *significantly* to my websites bandwidth usage (all that communication with the akismet server). So I tried bad behaviour about 1 year ago. I found it worked brilliantly (I even made a paypal donation to the author). BB is currently blocking about 500 spam comments per day. The ones that slip past BB get picked up by akismet (about 100 per day). I still get the occasional spam (maybe once a month) by people manually spamming. If the spammers get smart, and find a way through both BB and akismet, then I'll take a good look at defensio. I like the "learning from your blog" part, and the spamminess rating. Interesting.

I haven’t tried Defensio (yet)

I started my blog about 3 years ago, and once I switched to wordpress, I quickly discovered akismet (its built-in to wordpress).

Although it worked well, I noticed it would add *significantly* to my websites bandwidth usage (all that communication with the akismet server).

So I tried bad behaviour about 1 year ago.

I found it worked brilliantly (I even made a paypal donation to the author).

BB is currently blocking about 500 spam comments per day. The ones that slip past BB get picked up by akismet (about 100 per day).

I still get the occasional spam (maybe once a month) by people manually spamming.

If the spammers get smart, and find a way through both BB and akismet, then I’ll take a good look at defensio. I like the “learning from your blog” part, and the spamminess rating.

]]> By: Cynthia Armistead http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-65398 Cynthia Armistead Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:33:05 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-65398 I was using Akismet, Spam Karma, and Bad Behavior on our family's sites. WAY too much spam was getting through, despite those measures, so I tried Defensio as soon as I heard about it, back in January. My statistics start January 21, and while there was a bit of a learning curve, the accuracy has never been below 98%. After the first few weeks, it has stayed at or better than 99% except for a brief dip during a barrage of spam a few weeks back. I don't get nearly as much spam as you do, despite having had my domain since 1995 or so. Defensio says there've been 7601 spam comments/trackbacks since January. I'm glad not to be in your league! We had a wiki on one of our sites, but it got eaten up with spam, despite everything my partner did trying to secure it. We have another (can't remember the software) up now that hasn't been attacked, but the URL isn't linked from anywhere, so it isn't really a fair comparison. I was using Akismet, Spam Karma, and Bad Behavior on our family’s sites. WAY too much spam was getting through, despite those measures, so I tried Defensio as soon as I heard about it, back in January.

My statistics start January 21, and while there was a bit of a learning curve, the accuracy has never been below 98%. After the first few weeks, it has stayed at or better than 99% except for a brief dip during a barrage of spam a few weeks back.

I don’t get nearly as much spam as you do, despite having had my domain since 1995 or so. Defensio says there’ve been 7601 spam comments/trackbacks since January. I’m glad not to be in your league!

We had a wiki on one of our sites, but it got eaten up with spam, despite everything my partner did trying to secure it. We have another (can’t remember the software) up now that hasn’t been attacked, but the URL isn’t linked from anywhere, so it isn’t really a fair comparison.

]]> By: Usayd http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-64768 Usayd Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:14:47 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-64768 Thanks, good to know there is an alternative out there. So far akismet is cutting it for me, but recently I have noticed a number of comments slipping through even with Bad Behavior installed. Spam...what fool invented that eh? :P Thanks, good to know there is an alternative out there. So far akismet is cutting it for me, but recently I have noticed a number of comments slipping through even with Bad Behavior installed. Spam…what fool invented that eh? :P

]]> By: AnneTanne http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-2/#comment-55685 AnneTanne Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:35:11 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-55685 I switched back to Akismet last week after having tried Defensio since shortly after it's release. I have a small niche blog in Dutch, that's only getting spammers attention since a few weeks, but Defensio's accuracy was still arround 95% after all those months (best was around 96%), and hadn't learned yet that pingback's weren't necessarily spam. And it worked so slow... Akismet's page load consideralably faster. For the near future, I'll stick to Akismet. I switched back to Akismet last week after having tried Defensio since shortly after it’s release. I have a small niche blog in Dutch, that’s only getting spammers attention since a few weeks, but Defensio’s accuracy was still arround 95% after all those months (best was around 96%), and hadn’t learned yet that pingback’s weren’t necessarily spam.
And it worked so slow… Akismet’s page load consideralably faster. For the near future, I’ll stick to Akismet.

]]> By: NSpeaks http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-53824 NSpeaks Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:19:15 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-53824 I meant....howcome its working for you when I have never seen its accuracy touch 99%. For me...accuracy was 96% when I last used it 2-3 days ago. I am now on Akismet. I meant….howcome its working for you when I have never seen its accuracy touch 99%. For me…accuracy was 96% when I last used it 2-3 days ago. I am now on Akismet.

]]> By: Viper007Bond http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-52860 Viper007Bond Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:58:46 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-52860 [quote comment="52181"]I don't know how Defensio works for you[/quote] At the bottom of my initial post, I posted my stats. ;) NSpeaks on April 7th, 2008 at 8:03 AM wrote:

I don’t know how Defensio works for you

At the bottom of my initial post, I posted my stats. ;)

]]> By: NSpeaks http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-52181 NSpeaks Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:03:39 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-52181 I don't know how Defensio works for you, my defensio accuracy is constantly dropping from 98 to 96%. And its dropping ever since. I am back to Akismet. I don’t know how Defensio works for you, my defensio accuracy is constantly dropping from 98 to 96%.

And its dropping ever since. I am back to Akismet.

]]> By: Carl Mercier http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-52090 Carl Mercier Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:30:57 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-52090 We've been working at improving the plugin lately, but as Viper says, it works great as it is right now! We’ve been working at improving the plugin lately, but as Viper says, it works great as it is right now!

]]> By: Viper007Bond http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-51764 Viper007Bond Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:55:44 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-51764 [quote comment="51349"]You should definitely show the world how much spam you're getting with the Defensio badge. Instructions are in the readme file.[/quote] Yeah, I was just waiting to see if I was actually going to stick with Defensio or not. :) [quote comment="51491"]Nice review. I'm getting similar amounts of junks and so far I've been rather happy with Akismet, yet indeed some quite obvious spams sometimes manage their way in. Might give defensio a try some day.[/quote] Yeah, Akismet's accuracy is far from bad, but as you said, it seemed to miss quite a few obvious spams, something I just couldn't have. [quote comment="51598"](To be honest their plugin is mostly coded like crap)[/quote] Heh, I noticed the same thing, but it works fine with no errors, so I can easily overlook the code behind the scenes. :) Carl Mercier on April 6th, 2008 at 7:19 AM wrote:

You should definitely show the world how much spam you’re getting with the Defensio badge. Instructions are in the readme file.

Yeah, I was just waiting to see if I was actually going to stick with Defensio or not. :)

Ozh on April 6th, 2008 at 10:18 AM wrote:

Nice review. I’m getting similar amounts of junks and so far I’ve been rather happy with Akismet, yet indeed some quite obvious spams sometimes manage their way in. Might give defensio a try some day.

Yeah, Akismet’s accuracy is far from bad, but as you said, it seemed to miss quite a few obvious spams, something I just couldn’t have.

Ozh on April 6th, 2008 at 12:40 PM wrote:

(To be honest their plugin is mostly coded like crap)

Heh, I noticed the same thing, but it works fine with no errors, so I can easily overlook the code behind the scenes. :)

]]> By: Ozh http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-51598 Ozh Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:40:56 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-51598 (To be honest their plugin is mostly coded like crap) (To be honest their plugin is mostly coded like crap)

]]> By: Ozh http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-51491 Ozh Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:18:44 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-51491 Nice review. I'm getting similar amounts of junks and so far I've been rather happy with Akismet, yet indeed some quite obvious spams sometimes manage their way in. Might give defensio a try some day. Nice review. I’m getting similar amounts of junks and so far I’ve been rather happy with Akismet, yet indeed some quite obvious spams sometimes manage their way in. Might give defensio a try some day.

]]> By: Carl Mercier http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-51349 Carl Mercier Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:19:12 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-51349 A lot of spam means that you're doing something right :) You should definitely show the world how much spam you're getting with the Defensio badge. Instructions are in the readme file. A lot of spam means that you’re doing something right :)

You should definitely show the world how much spam you’re getting with the Defensio badge. Instructions are in the readme file.

]]> By: Viper007Bond http://www.viper007bond.com/2008/04/06/my-two-weeks-with-defensio-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-51346 Viper007Bond Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:16:52 +0000 http://www.viper007bond.com/?p=297#comment-51346 [quote comment="51337"]Wow that's an awesome accuracy and a -huge- amount of spam that you're getting there. Good to see that we're doing good on your blog![/quote] Yeah, 9 outta 10.6k is friggin' awesome. I'm quite happy I made the switch! :) And no clue as to why I'm such a popular target for spammers. I guess it's my high page rank (6 last I looked) combined with my blog being relatively old. Carl Mercier on April 6th, 2008 at 7:03 AM wrote:

Wow that’s an awesome accuracy and a -huge- amount of spam that you’re getting there.

Good to see that we’re doing good on your blog!

Yeah, 9 outta 10.6k is friggin’ awesome. I’m quite happy I made the switch! :)

And no clue as to why I’m such a popular target for spammers. I guess it’s my high page rank (6 last I looked) combined with my blog being relatively old.

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